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Re: How to force rapid ipv6 adoption

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Oct 1 17:54:11 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <560D9DD0.2030904@Janoszka.pl>
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 2015 14:51:53 -0700
To: Grzegorz Janoszka <Grzegorz@Janoszka.pl>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


> On Oct 1, 2015, at 13:55 , Grzegorz Janoszka <Grzegorz@Janoszka.pl> =
wrote:
>=20
> On 2015-10-01 20:29, Owen DeLong wrote:
>> However, I think eventually the residential ISPs are going to start =
charging extra
>> for IPv4 service.
>=20
> ISP's will not charge too much. With too expensive IPv4 many customers =
will migrate from v4/dual stack to v6-only and ISP's will be left with =
unused IPv4 addresses and less income.

Nope=E2=80=A6 They=E2=80=99ll be left with unused IPv4 addresses which =
is not a significant source of income and they=E2=80=99ll be able to =
significantly reduce the costs incurred
in supporting things like CGNAT.

> Will ISP's still find other profitable usage for v4 addresses? If not, =
they will be probably be quite slowly rising IPv4 pricing, not wanting =
to overprice it.

Probably they will sell it to business customers instead of the =
residential customers. However, we=E2=80=99re talking about relatively =
large numbers of customers
for relatively small numbers of IPv4 addresses that aren=E2=80=99t =
producing revenue directly at this time anyway.

> Even with $1/IPv4/month - what will be the ROI of a brand new home =
router?

About 2.5 years at that price since a brand new home router is about =
$29.

Owen


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