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Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Sep 25 13:15:24 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <201509251204.t8PC4hXj075723@aurora.sol.net>
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 10:15:16 -0700
To: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


> On Sep 25, 2015, at 05:04 , Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net> wrote:
>=20
>>> The question really at hand: what happens when you need to host a =
new=3D20=3D
>>=20
>>> pile of servers, need/can-justify a /24, and your hosting =
provider=3D20
>>> quotes you $2560/month just for the IP space (at $10/IP)?
>>=20
>> You probably laugh and go to some other provider or BYOA from a =
broker.
>=20
> That works until all the hosting providers are charging similar rates,
> and even a decade ago I saw providers who would charge you for =
bringing
> your own space.

I=E2=80=99m betting that as BYOA becomes the only way to get new =
customers, the charges
for BYOA will go down and the acceptance of BYOA customers will go up.

While you=E2=80=99re right that eventually, all the hosting providers =
are likely to start
charging, I think there=E2=80=99s a whole lot of hosting churn between =
here and there.


>=20
>>> =3D20
>>> That'd be an incentive to look seriously at IPv6.... I *think*.
>>=20
>> I hope so, but most likely people will continue to do the lazy thing =
as =3D
>> long as they
>> can get away with it.
>>=20
>>> Switching hosting providers will probably become a popular game =
for=3D20
>>> the early depletion era, as providers attempt to rob each other of
>>> customers.  That's probably a losing game in the long run.
>>=20
>> Let=3DE2=3D80=3D99s hope (that it=3DE2=3D80=3D99s a losing game).
>=20
> Just because something is a losing game doesn't mean people won't play
> that game.

Sure=E2=80=A6 Look at all the people still running windows.

Owen


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