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Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Sep 25 02:55:32 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <201509242257.t8OMvIAd063502@aurora.sol.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 23:55:21 -0700
To: Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org


> On Sep 24, 2015, at 15:57 , Joe Greco <jgreco@ns.sol.net> wrote:
>=20
>> According to =
http://business.comcast.com/internet/business-internet/static-=3D
>> ip
>> Comcast charges $19.95 per month for one static IPv4 address.
>=20
> High dollar amounts for a single static IPv4 address are nothing new,
> and are IMHO a side effect of monopoly/duopoly last mile providers =
being
> able to shake down end users because the end user's financially viable=20=

> options are typically just "pay up or don't get a static.=E2=80=9D

Yep=E2=80=A6 That=E2=80=99s why my Comcast service has dynamic IP =
addresses and I only
use them for effective Layer 2 services (GRE tunnels to the real routers =
that
actually route my traffic).

This had the rather nice side effect of confusing the heck out of their =
DPI
flow controllers back in the day when they were trying to rate-shape =
customers
in obnoxious and service-specific ways.

Since it looked like all my traffic was part of one session and it =
wasn=E2=80=99t TCP or
UDP, they didn=E2=80=99t know how to shape it.

> The question really at hand: what happens when you need to host a new=20=

> pile of servers, need/can-justify a /24, and your hosting provider=20
> quotes you $2560/month just for the IP space (at $10/IP)?

You probably laugh and go to some other provider or BYOA from a broker.

>=20
> That'd be an incentive to look seriously at IPv6.... I *think*.

I hope so, but most likely people will continue to do the lazy thing as =
long as they
can get away with it.

> Switching hosting providers will probably become a popular game for=20
> the early depletion era, as providers attempt to rob each other of
> customers.  That's probably a losing game in the long run.

Let=E2=80=99s hope (that it=E2=80=99s a losing game).

Owen


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