[184052] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Tony Patti)
Thu Sep 24 17:43:53 2015
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From: Tony Patti <tony@swalter.com>
To: "bob@FiberInternetCenter.com" <bob@FiberInternetCenter.com>, nanog list
 <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 2015 21:42:32 +0000
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According to http://business.comcast.com/internet/business-internet/static-=
ip
Comcast charges $19.95 per month for one static IPv4 address.
Tony Patti
CIO
-----Original Message-----
From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Bob Evans
Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 5:32 PM
To: nanog list
Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero
IPv4's works better today than ever before. IP space in North America has n=
ow officially turned into a revenue source for networks. Most private enter=
prise customers understand costs and profits. Business does not understand =
free stuff in a free market. Hence, IPv4 is no longer free in a block range=
 perspective.
To any business with rising employee medical insurance, electricity and off=
ice rent rates, an IP address cost is just not on the radar. Just not a lar=
ge enough cost to make IPv6 look financially attractive. Only when IPv4 add=
ress costs begin to exceed that of the hardware and labor conversion costs,=
 will IPv6 gain traction in North America.
So for the most part your teenage kids will grow up in an IPv4 world until =
they are probably 30,something. But, your grand kids will see IPv4 as soooo=
 old. That's all contingent upon all the networks we work on start charging=
 $10 or more per IP address per month.
Thank You
Bob Evans
CTO
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> just like fusion power plants is 20 yrs away (although I think now=20
> they are saying 50 yrs away which would make IPv6 12.5 yrs away).  (=3D
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> On Thu, Sep 24, 2015 at 4:06 PM, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
>
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>> The whole reason for the inertia
>> against going to IPv6 is "it ain't broke, so I not gonna 'fix' it."
>>
>> Now it's broke.
>> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
>>
>> ^^^^^^^This ^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> -----
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions
>> http://www.ics-il.com
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Stephen Satchell" <list@satchell.net>
>> To: nanog@nanog.org
>> Sent: Thursday, September 24, 2015 2:38:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: ARIN Region IPv4 Free Pool Reaches Zero
>>
>> On 09/24/2015 09:49 AM, Dovid Bender wrote:
>> > The issue now is convincing clients that they need it. The other=20
>> > issue is many software vendors still don't support it.
>>
>> And this may trigger a refresh on routers, as people old or refurbed=20
>> equipment find they need to change. The whole reason for the inertia=20
>> against going to IPv6 is "it ain't broke, so I not gonna 'fix' it."
>>
>> Now it's broke.
>>
>>
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