[183661] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: WiFI on utility poles
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mike Hammett)
Thu Sep 10 12:19:16 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 2015 11:17:44 -0500 (CDT)
From: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
To: Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAMrdfRyssHK73zWDPvY4gLqF778CJEMDBfg7bknOaGjVtDssNQ@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: Corey Petrulich <Corey_Petrulich@cable.comcast.com>,
Kenneth Falkenstein <Ken_Falkenstein@cable.comcast.com>,
NANOG mailing list <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Yeah, Other People's Money.=20
I highly doubt they got government money, but large corporations are full o=
f OPM from the perspective of the guy doing the work. Let's pitch this big =
science project because it sounds awesome and I can convince these guys to =
pay for it. It's not in any way unique to Comcast.=20
Contrasting that to a small company where it very much is the head guy's mo=
ney in every decision, so (generally, though certainly not always) more jud=
icious caution is exercised.=20
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Mike Hammett=20
Intelligent Computing Solutions=20
http://www.ics-il.com=20
Midwest Internet Exchange=20
http://www.midwest-ix.com=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com>=20
To: "Mike Hammett" <nanog@ics-il.net>=20
Cc: "Jared Mauch" <jared@puck.nether.net>, "Corey Petrulich" <Corey_Petruli=
ch@cable.comcast.com>, "Kenneth Falkenstein" <Ken_Falkenstein@cable.comcast=
.com>, "NANOG mailing list" <nanog@nanog.org>=20
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 10:50:27 AM=20
Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles=20
OPM, as in Other People's Money? If that's what you meant I don't think tha=
t's an accurate description since AFAIK Comcast didn't get any CAF money.=
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Scott Helms=20
Vice President of Technology=20
ZCorum=20
(678) 507-5000=20
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http://twitter.com/kscotthelms=20
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On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote:=
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I wish IEEE would natively support smaller channels as that's what's needed=
most of the time. Interference would be so much less.=20
If there's opportunity for Comcast to work with the WISP community on chann=
el selection to avoid mutual destruction, then great.=20
That said, the cable company's efforts scream of OPM.=20
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Mike Hammett=20
Intelligent Computing Solutions=20
http://www.ics-il.com=20
Midwest Internet Exchange=20
http://www.midwest-ix.com=20
----- Original Message -----=20
From: "Jared Mauch" < jared@puck.nether.net >=20
To: "Mike Hammett" < nanog@ics-il.net >=20
Cc: "Jason Livingood" < Jason_Livingood@cable.comcast.com >, "Corey Petruli=
ch" < Corey_Petrulich@cable.comcast.com >, "Kenneth Falkenstein" < Ken_Falk=
enstein@Cable.Comcast.com >, "NANOG mailing list" < nanog@nanog.org >=20
Sent: Thursday, September 10, 2015 9:52:59 AM=20
Subject: Re: WiFI on utility poles=20
> On Sep 10, 2015, at 9:00 AM, Mike Hammett < nanog@ics-il.net > wrote:=20
>=20
> 5 GHz noise levels affecting people whose primary means of Internet acces=
s is via fixed wireless .=20
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This is a huge deal for those people like myself that depend on fixed wirel=
ess for access at home because there is no broadband available despite ince=
ntives given by cities and states and the federal government.=20
The local WISPs are good at coordinating access in these ISM bands amongst =
themselves but when someone appears with a SSID without doing a peek at the=
spectrum (note: not a site survey, but actual spectrum view w/ waterfall, =
as site survey only checks for the channel width that the client radio is c=
onfigured for, not al the 10, 15, 8, 30mhz wide variants).=20
It=E2=80=99s just poor practice to show up and break something else because=
you can=E2=80=99t be bothered to notice the interference or noise floor yo=
u created. I suspect the hardware that Comcast is using doesn=E2=80=99t not=
ice this interference or adjacent channel issues. With the FCC aiming to le=
t cell carriers also clog the 5ghz ISM band it=E2=80=99s only going to get =
worse.=20
- Jared=20
