[183529] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: NetFlow - path from Routers to Collector
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Frank Bulk)
Sat Sep 5 14:00:47 2015
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From: "Frank Bulk" <frnkblk@iname.com>
To: "'Avi Freedman'" <freedman@freedman.net>
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Date: Sat, 5 Sep 2015 13:00:31 -0500
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How many IPv6 addresses do you get?
Frank
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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Avi Freedman
Sent: Tuesday, September 01, 2015 7:31 PM
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Subject: Re: NetFlow - path from Routers to Collector
(Jared wrote):
<snip>
> Most people I've seen have little data or insight into their
> networks, or don't have the level that they would desire as
> tools are expensive or impossible to justify due to capital costs.
> Tossing in a recurring opex cost of DC XC fee + transport + XC fee +
> redundant aggregation often doesn't have the ROI you infer here.
> I've put together some models in this area. It seems to me the
> DC/real estate companies involved could make a lot (more) money by
> offering an OOB service that is 10Mb/s flat-rate for the same as an XC
> fee and compete with their customers.
Equinix does have a very aggressively priced 10Mb/s flat-rate OOB (single
IP only but that's not that hard to work around) for essentially XC
pricing. It's been stable but not something you'd rely on for 100%
packet delivery to some other point on the Internet (so more for
reaching a per-pop OOB than for making a coherent OOB network with
a bunch of monitoring running 24x7).
Still, it's a good value for what it is.
<snip>
> - Jared
Avi Freedman
CEO, Kentik
avi at kentik dot com