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Re: NetFlow - path from Routers to Collector

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Avi Freedman)
Tue Sep 1 20:30:40 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: jared@puck.nether.net (Jared Mauch)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 2015 20:30:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: freedman@freedman.net (Avi Freedman)
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

(Jared wrote):

<snip>

> Most people I've seen have little data or insight into their 
> networks, or don't have the level that they would desire as 
> tools are expensive or impossible to justify due to capital costs.  
> Tossing in a recurring opex cost of DC XC fee  + transport + XC fee + 
> redundant aggregation often doesn't have the ROI you infer here. 
> I've put together some models in this area.  It seems to me the 
> DC/real estate companies involved could make a lot (more) money by 
> offering an OOB service that is 10Mb/s flat-rate for the same as an XC 
> fee and compete with their customers.

Equinix does have a very aggressively priced 10Mb/s flat-rate OOB (single 
IP only but that's not that hard to work around) for essentially XC
pricing.  It's been stable but not something you'd rely on for 100%
packet delivery to some other point on the Internet (so more for
reaching a per-pop OOB than for making a coherent OOB network with
a bunch of monitoring running 24x7).

Still, it's a good value for what it is.

<snip>

> - Jared

Avi Freedman
CEO, Kentik
avi at kentik dot com


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