[183060] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Branch Location Over The Internet
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Colton Conor)
Tue Aug 11 18:27:25 2015
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 2015 17:27:22 -0500
From: Colton Conor <colton.conor@gmail.com>
To: =?UTF-8?Q?J=C3=BCrgen_Jaritsch?= <jj@anexia.at>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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EoIP seems to be what I am looking for, however this recent Mikrotik
session says:
EoIP could be a solution for tunneling L2 over L3.
=E2=80=A2 EoIP disadvantages: =E2=80=93 Fragmentation of L2 frames over mul=
tiple L3 packets
=E2=80=93 Performance issues =E2=80=A2
VPLS advantages: =E2=80=93 No fragmentation. =E2=80=93 60% more performance=
then EoIP.
So it sounds like VPLS might be better than EoIP? I can't find much about
EoIP online, so is this a Mikrotik only protocol?
On Tue, Aug 11, 2015 at 1:46 PM, J=C3=BCrgen Jaritsch <jj@anexia.at> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Mikrotik Routerboard + (encrypted) Ethernet over IP (EoIP). If required:
> MPLS+OSPF+BGP in the EoIP for additional features.
>
> Build the pseudo Layer2 with two dedicated boxes. In the HQ you can hand
> it over directly to the MX80 and at the new office you can work with smal=
l
> boxes like Cisco 7301 (also available with redundant PS) or if you need
> more ports: 19xx ...
>
> #) cheap setup
> #) can easily transport a few hundred Meg
> #) you can use refurb parts if required
> #) big community support for Mikrotik Routerboards
> #) encrypted transport possible
> #) works with dynamic IPs
> #) MPLS in the EoIP allows you to transport VRFs with BGP signaling
>
> Etc etc
>
> Best regards
>
>
> J=C3=BCrgen Jaritsch
> Head of Network & Infrastructure
>
> ANEXIA Internetdienstleistungs GmbH
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> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Colton Conor [colton.conor@gmail.com]
> *Received:* Dienstag, 11 Aug. 2015, 20:23
> *To:* NANOG [nanog@nanog.org]
> *Subject:* Branch Location Over The Internet
>
> We have an enterprise that has a headquarter office with redundant fiber
> connections, its own ASN, its own /22 IP block from ARIN, and a couple of
> gigabit internet connections from multiple providers. The office is takin=
g
> full BGP routes from tier 1 providers using a Juniper MX80.
>
> They are establishing their first branch location, and need the branch
> location to be able to securely communicate back to headquarters, AND be
> able to use a /24 of headquarters public IP addresses. Ideally the devic=
e
> at the HQ location would hand out public IP address using DHCP to the oth=
er
> side of the tunnel at the branch location.
>
> We know that in an ideal world it would be wise to get layer 2 transport
> connections from HQ to the branch location, but lets assume that is not a=
n
> option. Please don't flood this thread about how it could be an option
> because it's not at this time. This setup will be temporary and in servic=
e
> for the next year until we get fiber to the branch site.
>
> Let's assume at the branch location we can get a DOCSIS cable internet
> connection from a incumbent cable provider such as Comcast, and that
> provider will give us a couple static IP address. Assume as a backup, we
> have a PPPoE DSL connection from the ILEC such as Verizon who gives us a
> dynamic IP address.
>
> What solution could we put at the HQ site and the branch site to achieve
> this? Ideally we would want the solution to load balance between the
> connections based on the connections speeds, and failover if one is down.
> The cable connection will be much faster speed (probably 150Mbps down and
> 10 Upload) compared to the DSL connection (10 download and 1 upload). If =
we
> need more speed we can upgrade the cable modem to a higher package, but f=
or
> DSL that is the max speed so we might have to get multiple DSL lines. The
> cable solution could always be used as the primary, and the DSL connectio=
n
> could only be used as backup if that makes things easier.
>
> If you were to do this with Juniper or Cisco gear what would you have at
> each location? What technology would you use?
>
> I know there is Pepewave and a couple of other software solutions that se=
em
> to have a proprietary load balancing solutions developed, but I would
> prefer to use a common Cisco or Juniper solution if one exists.
>
> There will be 50 users at the branch office. There is only one branch
> location at this time, but they might expand to a couple more but under 1=
0.
>
