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RE: [BULK] Verizon exiting California

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthew Black)
Tue Aug 4 17:57:37 2015

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From: Matthew Black <Matthew.Black@csulb.edu>
To: Andrew Carey <carey@ar-ballbat.org>
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 21:57:09 +0000
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I don't live in a new suburban community with modern utilities. Well, the 5=
0 year-old water main on my street was replaced about 10 years ago. We have=
n't suffered major flooding like UCLA experienced last year. My house was b=
uilt in 1930. Much of that telco copper is pushing 70 years old or more. So=
me is above ground and some is underground. Until recently, the underground=
 vault would flood whenever it rained. The b-box uses screw-type terminals,=
 not even 66 or BIX. Thank you GTE.

matthew black
california state university, long beach


-----Original Message-----
From: Andrew Carey [mailto:carey@ar-ballbat.org]=20
Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2015 10:02 AM
To: Matthew Black
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: [BULK] Verizon exiting California


> On Aug 3, 2015, at 10:09, Matthew Black <Matthew.Black@csulb.edu> wrote:
>=20
> I ran a few Google searches and came across a trove of complaints against=
 Frontier. Seems they are far worse than GTE/Verizon. On the few occasions =
I have called for FIOS support, always reached someone knowledgeable and he=
lpful. Not looking forward to the changeover, as the new owners have to pay=
 off debts from their acquisition. That can only be accomplished through ra=
te increases. I see a Verizon tech outside my kitchen window every two to t=
hree days as he replaces two nitrogen tanks keeping copper trunks pressuriz=
ed against water intrusion.

Cutting expenses is another (well, and selling more too). Properly engineer=
ed/maintained cable should not require that level of constant attention.=20

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