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Re: RES: Exploits start against flaw that could hamstring huge

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Jay Ashworth)
Tue Aug 4 12:59:05 2015

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Date: Tue, 4 Aug 2015 12:58:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com>
To: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Scott Helms" <khelms@zcorum.com>

> On Aug 4, 2015 9:38 AM, "Christopher Morrow" <morrowc.lists@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 11:29 AM, Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com>
> > wrote:
> > > With the (large) caveat that heterogenous networks are more
> > > subject to human error in many cases.
> >
> > <cough>automate!</cough>

> Automation just means your mistake goes many more places more quickly.

Not necessarily.

The sort of failure you're talking about, Scott, is "user did the wrong 
thing", and sure, automation makes it easier for that to spread.

Chris was, though, I think, suggesting automating around "user tries to do
the right thing on disjoint devices, and fails *because they're disjoint*";
that is, clearly, a problem automation can help with.

Cheers,
-- jra
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