[182773] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: Windows 10 Release
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Keith Medcalf)
Fri Jul 31 22:29:55 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 22:27:32 -0400
In-Reply-To: <CAMrdfRwhyCjp4jfVJRdZoAOioYjsGiUN=RjhHF2V0ORQGFFVfA@mail.gmail.com>
From: "Keith Medcalf" <kmedcalf@dessus.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org
It takes no effort at all. You just do the same thing as has been done wit=
h every previous version of windows:
When it asks for a LOCAL account and password, give it one. When it asks i=
f you want to do a Microsoft Account", say no thank-you. Mind you, it does=
ask you about 8 times if you are REALLY REALLY REALLY REALLY sure you don'=
t want to create or use a Microsoft account (obviously because that must be=
worth a LOT of money to microsoft).
But you do not have to do it. And it is not difficult to avoid creating/us=
ing a microsoft account.
Nor does not having a Microsoft Account have any adverse effect. It just m=
eans that you cannot use the crappy apps or the crappy app store. The only=
failing that I find is that there is no way to actually get rid of all the=
cruft -- to say "I do not want to use a Microsoft Account so please perman=
ently remove anything which requires it, or which cannot be maintained with=
out it".
It is not as bad, however, as their propensity for turning the firewall off=
(and diddling the rules) everytime you get even the slightest update such =
that you have to go into the firewall settings on a daily basis and make su=
re they are still set the way YOU want them set and not the way Microsoft w=
ants them set (Microsoft wants them completely disabled).
> -----Original Message-----
> From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Scott Helms
> Sent: Thursday, 30 July, 2015 10:35
> To: Justin Mckillican
> Cc: nanog@nanog.org list
> Subject: Re: Windows 10 Release
>
> Justin,
>
> That's true, but it takes effort for people to either set up a local
> account or change to one, and very few consumers will do that or have.
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
> --------------------------------
> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> --------------------------------
>
> On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Justin Mckillican <justin@mckill.ca>
> wrote:
>
> > Nope. For the upgrade the only piece of information MSFT needed was
> your
> > email if you chose email notification once the upgrade was ready for
> you.
> >
> > After it's installed it will ask to finish up the install the 'Express'
> > method which enabled a bunch of things like WIFI password sharing to
> > friends and whatever else or if you chose the manual option like I did
> you
> > can disable everything. It will also inherit your existing user
> settings,
> > so if your user is a local one instead of a cloud one it will continue
> to
> > be that way.
> >
> > It does install One Drive but again, if you never configured it or used
> it
> > then you'll simply see it in your task bar with the "welcome" or signup
> > screen.
> >
> >
> > -justin
> >
> > > On Jul 30, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Scott Helms <khelms@zcorum.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Since the requirement is that users are upgrading from Win 7, 8, or
> 8.1
> > > they've already had to create at least a minimal MS ID which means
> either
> > > creating an email account on Outlook.com or providing an existing
> email
> > > address and a password for MS.
> > >
> > >
> > > Scott Helms
> > > Vice President of Technology
> > > ZCorum
> > > (678) 507-5000
> > > --------------------------------
> > > http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
> > > --------------------------------
> > >
> > > On Thu, Jul 30, 2015 at 10:15 AM, Matthew Black
> <Matthew.Black@csulb.edu
> > >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Are users required to create any type of Microsoft cloud account
> (e.g.,
> > >> OneDrive, Office365, et alil) in order to install and use Windows 10=
?
> Of
> > >> Office? Is it possible to simply use Windows 10 without any Microsof=
t
> or
> > >> Google or Yahoo accounts?
> > >>
> > >> Is the unique identifier available to advertisers only through IE (o=
r
> > its
> > >> successor) OR will it also be available through Firefox/Chrome?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> matthew black
> > >> california state university, long beach
> > >>
> >
> >
