[182753] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Working with Spamhaus
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael O Holstein)
Fri Jul 31 09:42:23 2015
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From: Michael O Holstein <michael.holstein@csuohio.edu>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 13:40:18 +0000
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Le sigh ..
Hotmail/Outlook/Live
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/getsupport?oaspworkflow=3Dstart_1.0.0.0=
&wfname=3Dcapsub&productkey=3Dedfsmsbl3&locale=3Den-us
Google/Gmail
https://support.google.com/mail/contact/bulk_send_new?rd=3D1
AOL
https://postmaster.aol.com/trouble-ticket
Yahoo
https://io.help.yahoo.com/contact/index?page=3Dcontact&locale=3Den_US&y=3DP=
ROD_MAIL_ML#
As for SORBS, I'm not aware of anyone that uses it these days because of th=
e extortion thing and the rather ..ahem .. "eccentric" nature of it's owner=
.
Regards,
Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
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From: Ricky Beam <jfbeam@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2015 6:41 PM
To: Michael O Holstein
Subject: Re: Working with Spamhaus
On Thu, 30 Jul 2015 09:59:55 -0400, Michael O Holstein
<michael.holstein@csuohio.edu> wrote:
> 100 spammy messages isn't enough to get you in trouble, as long as it
> stops there.
I see you've never had the pleasure of dealing with SORBS. All it takes is
*ONE* message - EVER - to be instantly, and forever, listed in their
spamtraps list. Getting on the list is automatic and immediate. There are
no thresholds or limits; and there's expiration. The only way off that
list is to PAY them to remove you. (which makes it illegal in most places.
The corporate sharks flipped when I pointed them to that "policy".)
> as were the other major players (MS, Google, AOL, Yahoo) by just filling
> out their postmaster forms.
What "postmaster forms"? Those 4 are the most *impossible* companies with
whom I've ever tried to interact. I *know* there are people at Google but
I'll be damned if there's a way to reach any of them.=
