[182422] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Joe Maimon)
Thu Jul 16 16:32:56 2015
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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 2015 16:32:47 -0400
From: Joe Maimon <jmaimon@ttec.com>
To: Lee Howard <Lee@asgard.org>, Doug Barton <dougb@dougbarton.us>,
nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <D1CD5892.B8736%Lee@asgard.org>
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Lee Howard wrote:
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> I donıt see anybody hindering any efforts; I donıt see any efforts.
There were efforts in the past. I am highlighting our malfeasance as a
community in our past behavior. I have little hope of it changing in the
future, but I can vent about it every couple years or so.
You take the un-initiated and explain to them the actual utilization
percentage of the bitspace and then you explain why they should trust us
with bitspace management the second time around.
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> So, you would like to update RFC 1112, which defines and reserves Class E?
> Thatıs easy enough. If somebody had a use in mind for the space, anybody
> can write such a draft assigning space, which is, I believe, how to
> direct IANA to do something with it.
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nope
http://packetlife.net/blog/2010/oct/14/ipv4-exhaustion-what-about-class-e-addresses/
All the same rationals, including how it might be bad for ipv6, its too
late, its too hard, its too little were trotted out then, just as now.
The only use I have in mind for the space is for it to cease being
classified as experimental and therefore treated as invalid.
> If you want to direct IANA to distribute Class E space among the RIRs,
> thereıs more process, because you would also have to develop a global
> policy (no problem, we get the NRO NC to write it and get consensus at
> all the RIRs), and then each RIR would need to develop a policy under
> which to allocate it. Iıd be surprised if all that could happen in
> less than three years.
I would not care about that, so long as the impediment, the experimental
status was removed. Let the stakeholders have a real shot.
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> In any of these processes, nothing will move forward until there is
> consensus, and I donıt think thereıs consensus. If you think your
> argument can be persuasive, letıs write an internet-draft and get it
> into the process.
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> Lee
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