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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul Ferguson)
Wed Jul 15 21:10:27 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: "John R. Levine" <johnl@iecc.com>
From: Paul Ferguson <fergdawgster@mykolab.com>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 18:08:10 -0700
In-Reply-To: <alpine.OSX.2.11.1507152058460.45296@ary.lan>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On 7/15/2015 6:00 PM, John R. Levine wrote:

>> Are you really equating an incremental silent update to remove 
>> something between one if statement or slightly more and an entire
>> protocol stack that when active fundamentally changes the host
>> networking behavior?
> 
> Yeah.  On the devices I have, there's no practical difference 
> between a one line update and a complete reload.  Either you
> update the software or you don't, and mostly you don't.  PCs and
> servers are easy, embedded routers and printers and the like are
> not.

And on your mobile devices, for the most part you are reliant upon
your carrier to make software updates available to you in a timely and
utilitarian manner.

In other words, don't hold your breath.

Carriers are the major barrier to both feature upgrades and security
fixes/enhancements.

It is tremendously frustrating.

- - ferg


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