[182341] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: 'gray' market IPv4
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Lee Howard)
Wed Jul 15 09:59:21 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 09:59:09 -0400
From: Lee Howard <Lee@asgard.org>
To: Pavel Odintsov <pavel.odintsov@gmail.com>,
Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <CALgsdbdvSvZ6bE2=kUtKyLK8etgy2tB8Bh4+FjLjjhm2gQqkqA@mail.gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Price varies significantly by prefix length, and somewhat by region.
Regional variance may not be as much as it used to be.
Lee
On 7/14/15, 6:15 PM, "NANOG on behalf of Pavel Odintsov"
<nanog-bounces@nanog.org on behalf of pavel.odintsov@gmail.com> wrote:
>Hello, folks!
>
>I have finished multiple (and 5th in RIPE) inter RIR subnet moves in RIPE
>region. We have moved multiple /21-/20 networks and awerage cost was about
>$10 per ip.
>
>On Tuesday, July 14, 2015, Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Matt Kelly <mjkelly@gmail.com
>> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>>
>> > This list is actual sale prices,
>> > http://www.ipv4auctions.com/previous_auctions/
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Matt
>> >
>> >
>> > On July 14, 2015 at 10:14:05 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN (lists@mtin.net
>> <javascript:;>)
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > Thes folks (and I am not advertising or affiliated with them) publish
>>a
>> > list of most recent transfer completed:
>> >
>> > http://ipv4marketgroup.com/broker-services/buy/
>> >
>> >
>> http://ipv4marketgroup.com/broker-services/buy/ vs.
>> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/previous_auctions/
>>
>>
>> If you compare the pricing that both have made available you will find
>>one
>> is posting average prices exponentially higher than the other. When you
>> trend the granular auction site data the auction numbers demonstrate a
>> trend would expect, that smaller prefixes are more expensive since it
>> takes a similar amount of effort to process a /24 as it does a /20.
>>Dollar
>> differences between a /24 unit and a /17 unit move the needle
>> significantly.
>>
>> Based on both of both sets of public data its easy to conclude that
>> auctions will work for at least small buyers of space if they're
>> sophisticated enough to address the RIR issues. If you do decide to take
>> the simple broker approach (not all are simple and not all approaches
>>are
>> suitable to simple brokers), use an RFP. And Yelp. :-)
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> -M<
>>
>
>
>--
>Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov
>
