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Re: 'gray' market IPv4

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Pavel Odintsov)
Tue Jul 14 18:15:14 2015

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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 2015 01:15:10 +0300
From: Pavel Odintsov <pavel.odintsov@gmail.com>
To: Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Hello, folks!

I have finished multiple (and 5th in RIPE) inter RIR subnet moves in RIPE
region. We have moved multiple /21-/20 networks and awerage cost was about
$10 per ip.

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015, Martin Hannigan <hannigan@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, Jul 14, 2015 at 10:22 AM, Matt Kelly <mjkelly@gmail.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > This list is actual sale prices,
> > http://www.ipv4auctions.com/previous_auctions/
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matt
> >
> >
> > On July 14, 2015 at 10:14:05 AM, Justin Wilson - MTIN (lists@mtin.net
> <javascript:;>)
> > wrote:
> >
> > Thes folks (and I am not advertising or affiliated with them) publish a
> > list of most recent transfer completed:
> >
> > http://ipv4marketgroup.com/broker-services/buy/
> >
> >
> http://ipv4marketgroup.com/broker-services/buy/  vs.
> http://www.ipv4auctions.com/previous_auctions/
>
>
> If you compare the pricing that both have made available you will find one
> is posting average prices exponentially higher than the other. When you
> trend the granular auction site data the auction numbers demonstrate a
> trend  would expect, that smaller prefixes are more expensive since it
> takes a similar amount of effort to process a /24 as it does a /20. Dollar
> differences between a  /24 unit and a /17 unit move the needle
> significantly.
>
> Based on both of both sets of public data its easy to conclude that
> auctions will work for at least small buyers of space if they're
> sophisticated enough to address the RIR issues. If you do decide to take
> the simple broker approach (not all are simple and not all approaches are
> suitable to simple brokers), use an RFP.  And Yelp. :-)
>
> Best,
>
> -M<
>


-- 
Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov

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