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Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ricky Beam)
Thu Jul 9 19:30:59 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: "Owen DeLong" <owen@delong.com>
Date: Thu, 09 Jul 2015 19:28:42 -0400
From: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam@gmail.com>
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On Thu, 09 Jul 2015 19:08:56 -0400, Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com> wrote:
> the reality I’m trying to point out is that application developers make  
> assumptions based
> on the commonly deployed environment that they expect in the world.

Partially. It's also a matter of the software guys not having any clue  
what-so-ever w.r.t. networking. In this case, APPLE designed Bonjour to  
not cross network boundaries. Idiotic, but it allows them to sell  
"servers" that do the cross-network routing.

> If we create a limited environment, then that is what they will code to.

They will code to what they understand, what "works for them", and what  
their users report "works for me". We will always end up with  
"substandard" quality because they have little (or no) understanding of  
how networking does it's thing.

(And then marketing, and legal will step in and pooh on it even more.)

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