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Re: running summary on caching

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (scott)
Tue Jun 30 08:25:33 1998

Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 02:04:38 -1000 (HST)
From: scott <scott@digisle.net>
To: Jeremy Porter <jerry@freeside.fc.net>
cc: nanog@merit.edu
In-Reply-To: <199806300942.EAA02387@freeside.fc.net>



Could we get the summary and insight at the beginning of the note next
time?  :)  Thanks!

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On Tue, 30 Jun 1998, Jeremy Porter wrote:

> 
> Here is my running summary of this debate, with only mild editorizing:

[one big fat snip]

> So it seems:
> Against transparent proxying:
> Karl D.
> Against Digex transparent proxing:
> Patrick G.
> Upset about the problems with transparency not working:
> Jon L.
> Against transparency (for operational reasons even!)
> Mike O'Dell
> Thinks that bandwidth grows on trees:
> John F
> Pro hiarcheial caching, even transparency:
> Pushpendra M
> Hank N
> Patrick M
> Paul V
> Sean Doran
> andrew k
> Alan H
> Paul G
> Rich S
> Lamenting the lack of a Digex NOC to report transparency problems to:
> Randy B
> 
> ---
> 
> All well.  I'd guess that content providers had better start working
> with cache vendors to make things work right, as I would guess a good
> bit of the content is going to go through caches, if you like it or
> not and everyone is going to be better off with it.
> 
> There should be a real good flame war when people role out CoS/Voice over IP/
> RSVP to exist next to best effort delivery.  (My contract with
> provider X clearly implies that my traffic should be treated with
> equal priority to all other traffic on the network, therefore
> you are in breach of contract for offering higher priorities
> than best effort, oh and BTW you are doing unlawful wiretapping because
> you are classifying traffic by type which means looking past the
> IP address in the header.)
> 
> 
> ---
> Jeremy Porter, Freeside Communications, Inc.      jerry@fc.net
> PO BOX 80315 Austin, Tx 78708  |  512-458-9810
> http://www.fc.net
> 


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