[182014] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Jul 9 12:28:12 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <817684569.327.1436447535397.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck>
Date: Thu, 9 Jul 2015 09:27:59 -0700
To: Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
My parents are non-technical.
Other than a little help connecting her airport to the cable modem, I =
had nothing to do with the design and implementation of their networks.
They have at least 7 distinct subnets in their house that I know of.
Some of them are routed together. Some of them are isolated. I suspect =
my parents don=E2=80=99t even realize what a subnet is or how a router =
connects them.
It is unlikely, IMHO, that said topology will likely get flattened in =
the future. I expect, rather, that it will grow both vertical and =
horizontal.
I think that=E2=80=99s about as common person as it gets.
So I=E2=80=99m not talking about the 15-30 subnets in my house, =
depending on the day, nor the subnets outside of my house used to =
support the networking
in my house (point to point circuits and the like).
I=E2=80=99m well aware that the common person does not have an ASN for =
their home and the average home thinks BGP is probably an airport code.
Owen
> On Jul 9, 2015, at 06:11 , Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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for the common man. I have a dozen or two v4 subnets in my house. Then =
again, I also run my ISP out of my house, so I have a ton of stuff going =
on. I can't even think of a handful of other people that would have more =
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Tony Finch" <dot@dotat.at>=20
> To: "Ricky Beam" <jfbeam@gmail.com>=20
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> Sent: Thursday, July 9, 2015 6:17:17 AM=20
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> Ricky Beam <jfbeam@gmail.com> wrote:=20
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>> Talking about IPv6, we aren't carving a limit in granite. 99.99999% =
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>> networks currently have no need for multiple networks, and thus, =
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>> anything more; they get a single /64 prefix.=20
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> Personal-area networks already exist. Phone/watch/laptop etc.=20
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> Virtual machines are common, e.g. for running multiple different =
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> And automotive networks need connectivity.=20
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> There are often separate VLANs for VOIP and IP TV and smart meters.=20
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> Separate wifi networks tuned for low-latency synchronized audio.=20
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> So it's very common to have multiple networks in a home with multiple=20=
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> Tony.=20
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