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Re: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Stefan Neufeind)
Mon Jul 6 14:44:53 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Stefan Neufeind <nanog@stefan-neufeind.de>
Date: Mon, 6 Jul 2015 20:39:54 +0200
In-Reply-To: <CAGNc-gCYtSimijfUZf3PwKR6acdj4UijvqpTMZo2eamukhhevg@mail.gmail.com>
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Time to teach home-routers WPA Enterprise auth? Then at least you know
whom to blame :-) and just one user to disconnect instead of everybody
who previously had the key.
Well, but if "friends" were to share your wifi-key through other ways
the end-result would be the same. Just hand your key to "clueful"
people. I think the point here is that we might assume people have a lot
of good friends who don't know what they are doing (have things like
this enabled by default)? Hmm ... yeah might be :-(
Kind regards,
Stefan
Am 06.07.2015 um 20:29 schrieb Daniel C. Eckert:
> This isn't really an open source issue -- anybody can make foolish product
> design decisions regardless of licensing model. This is more about a vendor
> producing a feature that deliberately and shortsightedly creates a slew of
> problems impacting almost all existing networks anywhere. It's highly
> convenient feature for a specific, limited use case (home users hosting a
> party with a bunch of people that they don't want to have to worry about
> how to give them a network password). However, gat ignores all of the other
> security and user impact issues. Can you imagine how the user experience
> will change when you change your SSID to include the _optout tag and then
> try to verbally tell someone what the new SSID is? Bonus points for dealing
> with users in a context where you've had the same SSID for years.
> On Jul 6, 2015 11:17 AM, "Richard Golodner" <rgolodner@infratection.com>
> wrote:
>
>> There is a reason why my family loves open source. My kid is learning
>> Linux and she doesn't even know it. Mommy has an Android...
>>
>> On 07/06/2015 12:53 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote:
>>
>>> >From Lauren, a new "feature" in Windows 10 I think this community
>>> probably
>>> wants to know about, to the extent you don't already.
>>>
>>> I *knew* I didn't like W10. :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> -- jra
>>>
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>>>> From: "PRIVACY Forum mailing list" <privacy@vortex.com>
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>>>> Sent: Wednesday, July 1, 2015 8:03:06 PM
>>>> Subject: [ PRIVACY Forum ] Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with
>>>> your friends' friends
>>>> Windows 10 will share your Wi-Fi key with your friends' friends
>>>>
>>>> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/30/windows_10_wi_fi_sense/
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