[181800] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Dual stack IPv6 for IPv4 depletion
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Sun Jul 5 10:05:59 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net>
Date: Sun, 5 Jul 2015 14:05:53 +0000
In-Reply-To: <DC0E1262-B72F-4EB3-B428-34EBD835A46F@puck.nether.net>
Cc: "johnl@iecc.com" <johnl@iecc.com>,
"jmoore@atcnetworks.net" <jmoore@atcnetworks.net>,
"nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Jared,
Tunneling gets customers onto IPv6 with little trouble. I've deployed hundr=
ed of Apple Airports in this capacity and they have no problem with speeds =
of 200Mbps and more, and they rarely have downtime. The firmware is auto-up=
dating and is kept very current by Apple. The one feature they don't suppor=
t well is IPv6 DNS, since Airport has no DHCPv6 support. But an IPv4 name s=
erver works fine since the customers have an IPv4 link already.=20
-mel
> On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:24 AM, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
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>> On Jul 5, 2015, at 5:32 AM, William Waites <wwaites@tardis.ed.ac.uk> wro=
te:
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>> On Sun, 5 Jul 2015 06:13:52 +0000, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> said:
>>=20
>>> In fact, I show just how to do this using a $99 Apple Airport
>>> Express in my three-hour online course =93Build your own IPv6 Lab=94
>>=20
>> An anectode about this, maybe out of date, maybe not. I was helping my
>> friend who likes Apple things connect to the local community
>> network. He wanted to use an Airport as his home gateway rather than
>> the router that we normally use. Turns out these things can *only* do
>> IPv6 with tunnels and cannot do IPv6 on PPPoE. Go figure. So there is
>> not exactly a clear path to native IPv6 for your lab this way.
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> The airport devices/airport express class are not that good of devices
> as the embedded software doesn=92t handle a lot of traffic or long uptime
> well.
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> Most devices that are over 3 years old likely are not suitable for
> IPv6 testing aside from understanding what is broken. Keep in mind
> that software on a CPE device may be 6 months out of date by the time
> it comes out of a container stateside.
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> Expecting people to use tunnels, etc doesn=92t really scale properly.
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> I do wish that I could get static IPv6 prefixes along with my
> static IPv4 at home, but having IPv6 at all took precedence.
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> - Jared
