[181302] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network setup?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Faisal Imtiaz)
Fri Jun 19 23:36:12 2015
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Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2015 03:36:05 +0000 (GMT)
From: Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappytelecom.net>
To: Josh Luthman <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAN9qwJ9O3rTYAAv4LCcL7bZzXwmJ7gcb2=81FxQY_R-E0T7fig@mail.gmail.com>
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FCC Cert claims different.
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Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
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----- Original Message -----
> From: "Josh Luthman" <josh@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> To: "Faisal Imtiaz" <faisal@snappytelecom.net>
> Cc: "NANOG list" <nanog@nanog.org>, "Ray Soucy" <rps@maine.edu>
> Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 9:16:37 PM
> Subject: Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network setup?
> Uhm he's not wrong...
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340
> Direct: 937-552-2343
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
> On Jun 19, 2015 9:13 PM, "Faisal Imtiaz" < faisal@snappytelecom.net > wrote:
> > >>>The thing you need to watch out for with Ubiquiti is that they don't
> > >>>support DFS, so the entire U-NII-2 channel space is off limits for 5
> > >>>GHz.
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> > Huh ????
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> > Please verify your facts before making blanket statements which are not
> > accurate ...
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> > Faisal Imtiaz
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> > Snappy Internet & Telecom
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> > ----- Original Message -----
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> > > From: "Ray Soucy" < rps@maine.edu >
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> > > To: "Sina Owolabi" < notify.sina@gmail.com >
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> > > Cc: " nanog@nanog.org list" < nanog@nanog.org >
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> > > Sent: Friday, June 19, 2015 7:07:01 PM
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> > > Subject: Re: Whats' a good product for a high-density Wireless network
> > > setup?
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> > >
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> > > I know you don't want to hear this answer because of cost but I've had
> > > good
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> > > luck with Cisco for very high density (about 1,000 clients in a packed
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> > > auditorium actively using the network as they follow along with the
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> > > presenter).
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> > >
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> > > The thing you need to watch out for with Ubiquiti is that they don't
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> > > support DFS, so the entire U-NII-2 channel space is off limits for 5 GHz.
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> > > That's pretty significant because you're limited to 9 x 20 MHz channels
> > > or
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> > > 4 x 40 MHz channels. Keeping the power level down and creating small
> > > cells
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> > > is essential for high density, so with less channels your hands are
> > > really
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> > > tied in that case. Also, avoid the Zero Handoff marketing nonsense they
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> > > advertise; I'm sure it can work great for a low client residential area
> > > but
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> > > it requires all APs to share a single channel and depends upon
> > > coordinating
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> > > only one active transmitter at a time, so it simply won't scale.
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> > >
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> > > I don't have experience with other vendors at large scale or high
> > > density.
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> > >
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> > > I don't think what you're talking about is really high density anymore
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> > > though. That's just normal coverage. Wireless is a lot more complicated
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> > > than selecting a vendor, though. If you know what you're doing even
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> > > Ubiquiti could work decently, but if you don't even a Cisco solution
> > > won't
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> > > save you. You really need to be on top of surveying correctly and having
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> > > appropriate AP placement and channel distribution.
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> > >
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> > > On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 1:57 AM, Sina Owolabi < notify.sina@gmail.com >
> > > wrote:
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> > >
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> > > > Hi
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> > > >
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> > > > We are profiling equipment and design for an expected high user density
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> > > > network of multiple, close nit, residential/hostel units. Its going to
> > > > be
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> > > > 8-10 buildings with possibly a over 1000 users at any given time.
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> > > > We are looking at Ruckus and Ubiquiti as options to get over the high
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> > > > number of devices we are definitely going to encounter.
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> > > >
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> > > > How did you do it, and what would you advise for product and layout?
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> > > >
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> > > > Thanks in advance!
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> > >
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> > > --
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> > > Ray Patrick Soucy
>
> > > Network Engineer
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> > > University of Maine System
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> > >
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> > > T: 207-561-3526
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> > > F: 207-561-3531
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> > >
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> > > MaineREN, Maine's Research and Education Network
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> > > www.maineren.net
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> > >
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