[181067] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Apple ECN, Bufferbloat, CoDel (fwd)
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (joel jaeggli)
Mon Jun 15 12:13:58 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: Jared Mauch <jared@puck.Nether.net>, Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
From: joel jaeggli <joelja@bogus.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 09:13:47 -0700
In-Reply-To: <20150615131936.GA32565@puck.nether.net>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On 6/15/15 6:19 AM, Jared Mauch wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 06:20:31PM +0200, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I just want to bring to your attention the below talk (I am too lazy t=
o
>> re-write the whole email for this slightly different audience).
>>
>> Takeaway:
>>
>> We'll see a lot of ECN enabled traffic in a few months. This shouldn't=
be a
>> problem. I've been doing it to all my machines for 3-5 years without i=
ll
>> effects.
you'll also find all the networks that use the entire tos field as part
of the hash key... that's not exactly something you notice when you have
a 1:1 host to ip correspondence unless it leads to reordering. but with
stateless load balancing you can. fortunately those networks are
observably rare.
> I recall when ECN first came out and firewalls would block it causing =
me
> issues on my Linux boxes sending list mail out. It was a small enough =
percentage
> that I mostly ignored it, but this will cause trouble for people who st=
ill
> haven't fixed their broken firewalls.
>=20
> I encourage almost everyone on nanog to watch this talk.
>=20
> - Jared
>=20
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 18:07:57 +0200 (CEST)
>> From: Mikael Abrahamsson <swmike@swm.pp.se>
>> To: bloat@lists.bufferbloat.net
>> Subject: Apple ECN, Bufferbloat, CoDel
>>
>> I highly encourage people to take a look at:
>>
>> https://developer.apple.com/videos/wwdc/2015/?id=3D719
>=20
>> --=20
>> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
>=20
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