[180907] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu)
Fri Jun 12 03:06:10 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
To: Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo@heliacal.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:07:22 -0000."
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From: Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu
Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 03:05:57 -0400
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Fri, 12 Jun 2015 02:07:22 -0000, Laszlo Hanyecz said:
> > > university net nazis
> >
> > Did you really just write that?
> >
>
> As far as "net nazi", I meant it in the same sense as a BOFH. Someone who is
> intentionally degrading a user's experience by using technical means to block
> specifically targeted applications or behaviors.
Well, which is more BOFH-ish:
1) We insist that you connect in a way that allows us to identify and track
you for DMCA and other legal requirements that, quite frankly, we'd really
rather not have to do, but it's a cost of doing business.
2) We don't let you connect at all because we can't do so without exposing
ourselves to more legal liability than we want.
Besides which, that's a total red herring.
If you actually go back and *read*, I don't think anybody's "intentionally
degrading by blocking targeted applications" - except those who are refusing
to provide features to allow the applications to work on more network configs.
The vast majority of us would *prefer* that Android got fixed so it can ask for
more addresses and do more stuff. Most of us don't *care* if a user sucks up 13
adresses across 4 devices at the same time - IPv6 addresses are *cheap*.
On the other hand, covering your ass when a subpoena shows up and you realize
you don't have the data needed to point at the user they're *really* looking
for is incredibly expensive.
OK? Let me say that again: We're all asking Google to quit being stubborn
and add a feature to Android so we can make the user experience *better*.
Now who you calling a BOFH?
> On the other hand, if it becomes common and acceptable to use DHCPv6 to
> provide a single address only
I encourage my competitor universities to design their networks that way. :)
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