[180892] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Laszlo Hanyecz)
Thu Jun 11 19:42:15 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo@heliacal.net>
In-Reply-To: <5578B90B.2000409@mtcc.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 23:42:07 +0000
To: "nanog@nanog.org list" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Lorzenzo is probably not going to post anymore because of this.
It looks to me like Lorenzo wants the same thing as most everyone here, =
aside from the university net nazis, and he's got some balls to come =
defend his position against the angry old men of NANOG. Perhaps the =
approach of attacking DHCP is not the right one, but it sounds like his =
goal is to make IPv6 better than how IPv4 turned out.
Things like privacy extensions, multiple addresses and PD are great =
because they make it harder for people to do address based tracking, =
which is generally regarded as a desirable feature except by the people =
who want to do the tracking. DHCPv6 is a crutch that allows operators =
to simply implement IPv6 with all the same hacks as IPv4 and continue to =
do address based access control, tracking, etc. It's like a 'goto' =
statement - it can be used to do clever things, but it can also be used =
to hack stuff and create very hard to fix problems down the road. I =
think what Lorenzo is trying to do is to use his influence/position to =
forcefully prevent people from doing this, and while that may not be the =
most diplomatic way, I admire his courage in posting here and trying to =
reason with the mob.
-Laszlo
On Jun 10, 2015, at 10:24 PM, Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com> wrote:
> On 06/10/2015 02:51 PM, Paul B. Henson wrote:
>>> From: Lorenzo Colitti
>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 8:27 AM
>>>=20
>>> please do not construe my words on this thread as being Google's =
position
>>> on anything. These messages were sent from my personal email =
address, and I
>>> do not speak for my employer.
>> Can we construe your postings on the issue thread as being Google =
and/or Androids official position? They are posted by lorenzo@google.com =
with a tag of "Project Member", and I believe you also declined the =
request in the issue under that mantle.
>>=20
>>=20
> Oh, stop this. The only thing this will accomplish is a giant black =
hole of silence from anybody at Google and any other $MEGACORP
> in a similar situation.
>=20
> Mike
