[180874] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Ca By)
Thu Jun 11 09:45:04 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <CAFhRO6TVbsFpoohg65N8xrr59xj-qV8xg90-VAsP4DmeM_8fYA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 11 Jun 2015 06:45:00 -0700
From: Ca By <cb.list6@gmail.com>
To: Alex White-Robinson <alexwr@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
On Wednesday, June 10, 2015, Alex White-Robinson <alexwr@gmail.com> wrote:
> Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > On a slightly different note, however--while it's good to
> > have an appreciation of the past and how we got here,
> > I think it's wise to also recognize we as an industry
> > have some challenges bringing new blood in--and
> > treating it too much like a sacred priesthood with
> > cabalistic knowledge and initiation rites isn't going
> > to help us bring new engineers into the field to
> > take over for us crusty old farts when our eyes
> > give out and we can't type into our 9600 baud
> > serial consoles anymore.
> >
> > Matt
> > CCOF #1999322002 [0]
>
> I've seen very little attention paid to junior talent in the last few
> years, and know a few people who would have been talented engineers that
> never got a chance to show it.
> They moved into other industries because of the lack of junior roles.
>
> I know very few people in network engineering that are under thirty, and
> not that many under thirty five.
>
>
My unscientific impression is that 90% of the neteng jobs are for senior
engineers on indeed.com with north of 5 years experience.
Going back to the OP, looking for network heavies.....
How do you get heavies if you don't grow a bench?
My $dayjob open reqs are definately all sr eng or above. We have a decent
internship program, but far from sufficient to grow a bench
> On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Matthew Petach <mpetach@netflight.com
> <javascript:;>>
> wrote:
>
> > On Sun, Jun 7, 2015 at 7:57 PM, Jay Ashworth <jra@baylink.com
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > [...]
> > >
> > > And this... is NANOG!
> >
> > Needs more ellipses and capitalization...more like
> >
> >
> > This...IS...NANOG!!!
> >
> > building up to a nice crescendo roar as you kick the
> > hapless interviewee backwards down the deep, dark well
> >
> >
> > On a slightly different note, however--while it's good to
> > have an appreciation of the past and how we got here,
> > I think it's wise to also recognize we as an industry
> > have some challenges bringing new blood in--and
> > treating it too much like a sacred priesthood with
> > cabalistic knowledge and initiation rites isn't going
> > to help us bring new engineers into the field to
> > take over for us crusty old farts when our eyes
> > give out and we can't type into our 9600 baud
> > serial consoles anymore.
> >
> > Matt
> > CCOF #1999322002 [0]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [0] Certified Crufty Old Fart
> >
>
