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RE: Android (lack of) support for DHCPv6

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Paul B. Henson)
Wed Jun 10 18:04:32 2015

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From: "Paul B. Henson" <henson@acm.org>
To: "'Ray Soucy'" <rps@maine.edu>
In-reply-to: <CALFTrnPSyR3MtD6Ub5j0v6Z9QgajXcq7QQtqaz9SPGVWmuFh_w@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 10 Jun 2015 14:47:41 -0700
Cc: 'NANOG List' <nanog@nanog.org>
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> From: Ray Soucy
> Sent: Wednesday, June 10, 2015 6:06 AM
>
> As for thinking "long term" and "the future", we need devices to work
> within current models of IPv6 to accelerate _adoption_ of IPv6 _today_
> before we can get to that future you're talking about.
>=20
> Not supporting DHCPv6 ultimately holds back adoption, which makes =
people
> see IPv6 as optional for longer, and discourages deployment because =
vendor
> support is all over the place and seen as "not ready".
>=20
> This isn't theory, we've been _living_ with this as a reality for =
years
> now.  The networks are ready; the clients are not.
>=20
> Universities see a constant stream of DMCA violation notices that need =
to
> be dealt with and not being able to associate a specific IPv6 address =
to a
> specific user is a big enough liability that the only option is to not =
use
> IPv6.  As I said, Android becomes a second class citizen on the =
network
> under your model.

Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your =
newsletter ;).

When someone shows up with a device that only supports WEP, or doesn't =
support WPA2-Enterprise, we tell them they need to replace it with a =
device supporting current standards that provide the minimum level of =
security we have decided upon for our network policy. When someone shows =
up with an android device that can't connect to our IPv6 network, we =
will tell them to replace it with a device that fully supports current =
standards.

I still find it hard to believe that Google as a corporate entity thinks =
it is more important to try and force network operators to conform to =
their ideals for configuration than it is to make android feature =
equivalent with its competitors.



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