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Re: GRE performance over the Internet - DDoS cloud mitigation

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Roland Dobbins)
Mon Jun 8 07:25:22 2015

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Date: Mon, 08 Jun 2015 18:25:14 +0700
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On 8 Jun 2015, at 17:57, Ramy Hashish wrote:

> a BGP session has to be established over a GRE tunnel over the 
> internet between the ISP/NSP/DC and the cloud scrubbing center,

This is incorrect.

In most cloud overlay DDoS mitigation scenarios (e.g., end-customer 
obtains service from an MSSP which isn't providing them with transit), 
a) there is no BGP relationship whatsoever between the end-customer and 
the MSSP, and b) the GRE tunnel is used strictly for re-injection of 
clean traffic (i.e., post-mitigation) to the end-customer.

In some scenarios, DNS is also used in place of/in addition to BGP-based 
diversion.

But GRE is used for re-injection only.

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