[180604] in North American Network Operators' Group
RE: PPPoE/IPoE, any recommendations for upgrade?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Nasser Heidari)
Mon Jun 8 02:16:38 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: "Nasser Heidari" <nasser@rasana.net>
To: "'Mikael Abrahamsson'" <swmike@swm.pp.se>
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1506071128060.9487@uplift.swm.pp.se>
Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2015 10:46:32 +0430
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> On Sun, 7 Jun 2015, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
>
> > - If you are already using IPoE, tell more why should I upgrade?
>
> The IPoE and IPoEoADSL I have done didn't need radius, didn't need BNG,
didn't
> need a lot of the complications you're talking about. It could basically
be realised in
> any decent L3 switch as default gateway for the customers instead of
needing BNG.
>
> So I'd say if you want to get full potential of IPoE you need to do
simplification as
> well, otherwise there is little use in doing the work if he only thing you
want to
> change is from IPoPPPoE to IPoE encapsulation and keep all the other stuff
you're
> doing.
>
> IPoPPPoE requires special CPE and router at your end to achieve high
speeds,
> because they need to support encapsulation/decapsulation of packets at
whatever
> speed you provide. The number of devices that do this is a lot smaller
than the
> ones that do decent speeds with just IPoE.
>
> So some people will say migrating to IPoE from IPoPPPoE buys them nothing,
> because they feel they need all the mechanisms they currently use.
> Greenfield deployments might say "hey, we can do this without a lot of the
needed
> mechanisms for IPoPPPoE" and save a lot of money and complication.
>
> --
> Mikael Abrahamsson email: swmike@swm.pp.se
Thanks for your reply. I'm would like this simplicity if I could keep same
functionalities I have in PPPoE. By functionalities I mean:
- AAA
- Triple-ply services and classified accounting per service
- Possibility to suspend a user service in case of over-quota
- applying fair-share policies
Do I have any option to have simplicity and same functionality together?
Regards,
Nasser
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