[180526] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Faisal Imtiaz)
Sat Jun 6 00:35:52 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Sat, 6 Jun 2015 04:35:45 +0000 (GMT)
From: Faisal Imtiaz <faisal@snappytelecom.net>
To: James Laszko <jamesl@mythostech.com>
In-Reply-To: <969661F9-BB1D-4379-950D-B306AFC90033@mythostech.com>
Cc: NANOG Operators' Group <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
'pathping' ..... learned something new today...=20
Did not know such a command existed in windows..
Been working with computers for over 30 years, while I don't care as to wha=
t it says about how much I know, but it sure reminds me that that their is =
always something more that one can learn !
Thank You.
:)
Faisal Imtiaz
Snappy Internet & Telecom
7266 SW 48 Street
Miami, FL 33155
Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232
Help-desk: (305)663-5518 Option 2 or Email: Support@Snappytelecom.net=20
----- Original Message -----
> From: "James Laszko" <jamesl@mythostech.com>
> To: "Mike Hale" <eyeronic.design@gmail.com>
> Cc: "NANOG Operators' Group" <nanog@nanog.org>
> Sent: Friday, June 5, 2015 9:57:38 PM
> Subject: Re: eBay is looking for network heavies...
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> I asked one of my guys to tracert in windows for something and he execute=
d
> pathping. I have never seen that in 25 years.... Go figure!
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> James Laszko
> Mythos Technology Inc
> jamesl@mythostech.com
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> > On Jun 5, 2015, at 18:40, Mike Hale <eyeronic.design@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > We need a pool on what percentage of readers just googled traceroute.
> >> On Jun 5, 2015 6:28 PM, <nanog@cdl.asgaard.org> wrote:
> >>=20
> >> On 5 Jun 2015, at 17:45, =C5=81ukasz Bromirski wrote:
> >>=20
> >> On 06 Jun 2015, at 02:26, Jared Mauch <jared@puck.nether.net> wrote:
> >>>>=20
> >>>>=20
> >>>>> On Jun 5, 2015, at 7:13 PM, John Fraizer <john@op-sec.us> wrote:
> >>>>>=20
> >>>>> Head of line for CCIE / JNCIE but knowledge and experience trumps a
> >>>>> piece
> >>>>> of paper every time!
> >>>>=20
> >>>> Can you please put these at the back of the line? My experience is =
that
> >>>> the cisco certification (at least) is evidence of the absence of act=
ual
> >>>> troubleshooting skills. (or my standards of what defines =E2=80=9Ce=
xpert=E2=80=9D are
> >>>> different than the rest of the world).
> >>>=20
> >>> Jared, don=E2=80=99t generalize.
> >>>=20
> >>> True - there are people that are =E2=80=98paper=E2=80=99 CCIE/JNCIEs =
- but let=E2=80=99s not
> >>> start a rant unless you've met tens of CCIEs/JNCIEs and all of them
> >>> didn=E2=80=99t know a jack. About troubleshooting.
> >>=20
> >> 't
> >>=20
> >> We had one CCIE at a previous job who just didn't "click" no matter ho=
w
> >> much we tried to train on the architecture. Eventually in one backbon=
e
> >> event, he kept saying that the problem couldn't be with a given router
> >> because "traceroute worked." When it was pointed out that the potenti=
al
> >> fault wouldn't cause traceroute to fail, we got a very puzzled look. =
We
> >> then asked him to explain how traceroute worked. He spectacularly fai=
led.
> >>=20
> >> It became a tongue-in-cheek interview question. What was boggling was=
the
> >> number of *IE's that failed trying to explain traceroute's mechanics.
> >>=20
> >> My test, as crass as it is. If your CV headlines with a JCIE/CCIE, I =
am
> >> pretty certain that you have very little real-world experience. If it=
's a
> >> footnote somewhere, that's ok.
> >>=20
> >> Christopher
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >>> =E2=80=94
> >>> CCIE #15929 R&S/SP, CCDE #2012::17
> >>> (not that I=E2=80=99d know anything about troubleshooting of course)
> >>=20
> >>=20
> >> --
> >> =E6=9D=8E=E6=9F=AF=E7=9D=BF
> >> Avt tace, avt loqvere meliora silentio
> >> Check my PGP key here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.asc
> >> Current vCard here: http://www.asgaard.org/cdl/cdl.vcf
> >> keybase: https://keybase.io/liljenstolpe
> >>=20
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