[180389] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: RE: AWS Elastic IP architecture
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Hugo Slabbert)
Mon Jun 1 19:27:53 2015
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Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 16:25:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: Hugo Slabbert <hugo@slabnet.com>
To: Tony Hain <alh-ietf@tndh.net>, 'Matt Palmer' <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>
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Agree with everything in your post.
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Hugo
----- Original Message -----
From: Tony Hain <alh-ietf@tndh.net>
Sent: 2015-06-01 - 16:20
To: 'Hugo Slabbert' <hugo@slabnet.com>, 'Matt Palmer' <mpalmer@hezmatt.org>
Subject: RE: AWS Elastic IP architecture
> Hugo Slabbert wrote:
>>>> snip
>>
>> On this given point, though: Facebook -ne generic hosting platform
>
> True, but it does represent a business decision to choose IPv6. The relevant
> point here is that the "NEXT" facebook/twitter/snapchat/... is likely being
> pushed by clueless investors into outsourcing their infrastructure to
> AWS/Azure/Google-cloud. This will prevent them from making the same business
> decision about system efficiency and long term growth that Facebook made due
> to decisions made by the cloud service operator.
>
> From my perspective, most of this conversation has centered on the needs of
> the service, and tried very hard to ignore the needs of the customer despite
> Owen and others repeatedly raising the point. While the needs of the service
> do impact the cost of delivery, a broken service is still broken. Personally
> I would consider "free" to be overpriced for a broken service, but maybe
> that is just me.
>
> In any case, if the VM interface doesn't present what looks like a native
> IPv6 service to the application developer, IPv6 usage will be curtailed and
> IPv4 growing pains will continue to get worse.
>
> Tony
>
>
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