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Re: AWS Elastic IP architecture

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Sun May 31 09:43:52 2015

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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAAtZb4pAG2u=N+uh7zrH180yLMSuqgjVVnoL0o8oZ_NAmN3m9A@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 06:40:10 -0700
To: Andras Toth <diosbejgli@gmail.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org

I wasn=E2=80=99t being specific about VPC vs. Classic.

The support for IPv6 in Classic is extremely limited and basically =
useless for 99+% of applications.

I would argue that there is, therefore, effectively no meaningful =
support for IPv6 in AWS, period.

What you describe below seems to me that it would only make the =
situation I described worse, not better in the VPC world.

Owen

> On May 31, 2015, at 4:23 AM, Andras Toth <diosbejgli@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Congratulations for missing the point Matt, when I sent my email
> (which by the way went for moderation) there wasn't a discussion about
> Classic vs VPC yet. The discussion was "no ipv6 in AWS" which is not
> true as I mentioned in my previous email. I did not state it works
> everywhere, but it does work.
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> In fact as Owen mentioned the following, I assumed he is talking about
> Classic because this statement is only true there. In VPC you can
> define your own IP subnets and it can overlap with other customers, so
> basically everyone can have their own 10.0.0.0/24 for example.
> "They are known to be running multiple copies of RFC-1918 in disparate
> localities already. In terms of scale, modulo the nightmare that must
> make of their management network and the fragility of what happens
> when company A in datacenter A wants to talk to company A in
> datacenter B and they both have the same 10-NET addresses"
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> Andras
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> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 7:18 PM, Matt Palmer <mpalmer@hezmatt.org> =
wrote:
>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 01:38:05AM +1000, Andras Toth wrote:
>>> Perhaps if that energy which was spent on raging, instead was spent =
on
>>> a Google search, then all those words would've been unnecessary.
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>>> Official documentation:
>>> =
http://docs.aws.amazon.com/ElasticLoadBalancing/latest/DeveloperGuide/elb-=
internet-facing-load-balancers.html#internet-facing-ip-addresses
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>> Congratulations, you've managed to find exactly the same info as Owen
>> already covered:
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>> "Load balancers in a VPC support IPv4 addresses only."
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>> and
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>> "Load balancers in EC2-Classic support both IPv4 and IPv6 addresses."
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>> - Matt
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