[180067] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Spamhaus BGP feed experiences?
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Matthias Leisi)
Wed May 20 16:37:37 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Matthias Leisi <matthias@leisi.net>
Date: Wed, 20 May 2015 22:37:29 +0200
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <555B8313.5080400@netassist.ua>
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At dnswl.org <http://dnswl.org/> we check our data against the DROP list =
every once in a while. The overlap of DROP with legitimate sources of =
SMTP traffic is very, very small: a low single-digit number, and most of =
them are crappy to start with (so we don=92t publish them, but only keep =
them in our database for reference purposes).=20
=97 Matthias
> Am 19.05.2015 um 20:38 schrieb Max Tulyev <maxtul@netassist.ua>:
>=20
> How much false positives (i.e. blackholing traffic users want to =
reach)?
>=20
> On 18.05.15 21:04, Marco d'Itri wrote:
>> On May 17, Mike Lyon <mike.lyon@gmail.com> wrote:
>>=20
>>> Any ISPs out there (big or small) ever used the Spamhaus BGP feed to
>>> prevent against botnet, spam, etc? If so, how has your experience =
been? Is
>>> it worthwhile? Has it helped? On / off list responses are =
appreciated in
>>> advance.
>> We use Spamhaus DROP (not the BGP version: our software asks a human =
to=20
>> review each change).
>> The benefits are not obvious since we do not have access customers, =
but=20
>> it will blackhole some networks you obviously do not want to talk to,
>> and it has not caused any troubles either.
>>=20
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