[180012] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Low Cost 10G Router
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Tue May 19 16:25:49 2015
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From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: Pavel Odintsov <pavel.odintsov@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 20:25:42 +0000
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I do use L3 switches for BGP at some locations (Cisco 3750) and they perfor=
m great. The problem is no instrumentation (e.g. Sflow, netflow).=20
-mel via cell
> On May 19, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Pavel Odintsov <pavel.odintsov@gmail.com> w=
rote:
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> What about L3 switches? You could receive full BGP table with Linux
> BOX with ExaBGP, parse it and feed to L3 switch.
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>> On Tue, May 19, 2015 at 10:44 PM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
>> I've seen serious, unusual performance bottlenecks in Mikrotik CCR, in s=
ome cases not even achieving a gigabit speeds on 10G interfaces. Performanc=
e drops more rapidly then Cisco with smaller packet sizes.
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>> -mel beckman
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>>> On May 19, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN <lists@mtin.net> wro=
te:
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>>> I second the Mikrotik recommendation. You don=92t get support like you=
would with Cisco but it=92s a solid product.
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>>> Justin
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>>> Justin Wilson j2sw@mtin.net
>>> http://www.mtin.net Managed Services =96 xISP Solutions =96 Data Center=
s
>>> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics
>>> http://www.midwest-ix.com Peering =96 Transit =96 Internet Exchange
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>>>> On May 19, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Keefe John <keefe-af@ethoplex.com> wrote:
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>>>> For about $1000 you could get a Mikrotik CCR1036-8G-2S+EM but it only =
has 2 SFP+ ports.
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>>>> http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2SplusEM
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>>>> Keefe
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>>>> On 5/19/2015 3:46 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
>>>>>> How cheap is cheap and what performance numbers are you looking for?
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>>>>>> About as cheap as you can get:
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>>>>>> For about $3,000 you can build a Supermicro OEM system with an 8-cor=
e Xeon
>>>>>> E5 V3 and 4-port 10G Intel SFP+ NIC with 8G of RAM running VyOS. Th=
e pro
>>>>>> is that BGP convergence time will be good (better than a 7200 VXR), =
and
>>>>>> number of tables likely won't be a concern since RAM is cheap. The =
con is
>>>>>> that you're not doing things in hardware, so you'll have higher late=
ncy,
>>>>>> and your PPS will be lower.
>>>>> What 8 core Xeon E5 v3 would that be? The 26xx's are hideously price=
y,
>>>>> and for a router, you're probably better off with something like a
>>>>> Supermicro X10SRn fsvo "n" with a Xeon E5-1650v3. Board is typically
>>>>> around $300, 1650 is around $550, so total cost I'm guessing closer t=
o
>>>>> $1500-$2000 that route.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> The edge you get there is the higher clock on the CPU. Only six core=
s
>>>>> and only 15M cache, but 3.5GHz. The E5-2643v3 is three times the cos=
t
>>>>> for very similar performance specs. Costwise, E5 single socket is th=
e
>>>>> way to go unless you *need* more.
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>>>>> ... JG
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> Sincerely yours, Pavel Odintsov
