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Re: Low Cost 10G Router

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Tue May 19 15:46:34 2015

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From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: Justin Wilson - MTIN <lists@mtin.net>
Date: Tue, 19 May 2015 19:44:53 +0000
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I've seen serious, unusual performance bottlenecks in Mikrotik CCR, in some=
 cases not even achieving a gigabit speeds on 10G interfaces. Performance d=
rops more rapidly then Cisco with smaller packet sizes.=20

 -mel beckman

> On May 19, 2015, at 12:28 PM, Justin Wilson - MTIN <lists@mtin.net> wrote=
:
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> I second the Mikrotik recommendation.  You don=92t get support like you w=
ould with Cisco but it=92s a solid product.
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> Justin
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> Justin Wilson j2sw@mtin.net
> http://www.mtin.net  Managed Services =96 xISP Solutions =96 Data Centers
> http://www.thebrotherswisp.com Podcast about xISP topics
> http://www.midwest-ix.com Peering =96 Transit =96 Internet Exchange=20
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>> On May 19, 2015, at 3:16 PM, Keefe John <keefe-af@ethoplex.com> wrote:
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>> For about $1000 you could get a Mikrotik CCR1036-8G-2S+EM but it only ha=
s 2 SFP+ ports.
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>> http://routerboard.com/CCR1036-8G-2SplusEM
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>> Keefe
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>> On 5/19/2015 3:46 PM, Joe Greco wrote:
>>>> How cheap is cheap and what performance numbers are you looking for?
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>>>> About as cheap as you can get:
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>>>> For about $3,000 you can build a Supermicro OEM system with an 8-core =
Xeon
>>>> E5 V3 and 4-port 10G Intel SFP+ NIC with 8G of RAM running VyOS.  The =
pro
>>>> is that BGP convergence time will be good (better than a 7200 VXR), an=
d
>>>> number of tables likely won't be a concern since RAM is cheap.  The co=
n is
>>>> that you're not doing things in hardware, so you'll have higher latenc=
y,
>>>> and your PPS will be lower.
>>> What 8 core Xeon E5 v3 would that be?  The 26xx's are hideously pricey,
>>> and for a router, you're probably better off with something like a
>>> Supermicro X10SRn fsvo "n" with a Xeon E5-1650v3.  Board is typically
>>> around $300, 1650 is around $550, so total cost I'm guessing closer to
>>> $1500-$2000 that route.
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>>> The edge you get there is the higher clock on the CPU.  Only six cores
>>> and only 15M cache, but 3.5GHz.  The E5-2643v3 is three times the cost
>>> for very similar performance specs.  Costwise, E5 single socket is the
>>> way to go unless you *need* more.
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>>> ... JG
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