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Re: Alcatel-Lucent 7750 Service Router (SR)

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Josh Reynolds)
Thu May 7 13:15:24 2015

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From: Josh Reynolds <josh@spitwspots.com>
Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 09:10:43 -0800
To: Craig <cvuljanic@gmail.com>,Rob Seastrom <rs@seastrom.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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You know where these people wouldn't fit? W/ISPs.

Every three years or so you are forklifting the majority of your wireless PtMP for either a new series or a totally different vendor. New backhaul vendors often. You're building AC and DC power plants. You likely touch Cisco, juniper, HP, mikrotik, ubiquiti, Linux, windows, *BSD/pfsense, lucent, accedian/ciena, etc due to various client and network requirements all in the same week, AND you have to make them work together nicely :)

It's not the environment for somebody like that, and I truly don't understand how people of that.. "caliber" end up working on large scale WANs and global transit networks.

Frankly, it scares me a bit.

On May 7, 2015 9:07:35 AM AKDT, Craig <cvuljanic@gmail.com> wrote:
>we do "cry" when we interview people that claim to have "advanced
>knowledge" of BGP and we ask them some very basic BGP questions, and we
>get
>a blank stare.....
>
>On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 12:49 PM, Rob Seastrom <rs@seastrom.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Josh Reynolds <josh@spitwspots.com> writes:
>>
>> > It really bothers me to see that people in this industry are so
>> > worried about a change of syntax or terminology. If there's one
>> > thing about the big vendors that bothers me, it's that these
>> > batteries of vendor specific tests have allowed many "techs" to get
>> > lazy. They simply can't seem to operate well, if at all, in a
>> > non-Cisco (primarily) environment.
>>
>> If that bothers you, I recommend you not look at what passes for a
>> "system administrator" these days.  It will make you cry.
>>
>> -r
>>
>>
>>

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