[178711] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Miles Fidelman)
Mon Mar 2 16:29:03 2015
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Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 16:28:58 -0500
From: Miles Fidelman <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net>
CC: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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Barry Shein wrote:
> > Anything based on NNTP would be extremely asymmetric without significant
> > changes to the protocol or human behavior.
> >
> > We ran significant Usenet servers with binaries for nearly 20 years and
> > without for another 5 and the servers' traffic was heavily asymmetric.
> > On Mar 1, 2015 9:11 AM, "Miles Fidelman" <mfidelman@meetinghouse.net> wrote:
Hey Barry - just to be clear, twasn't I who made the claim - I'm the one
who asked for your input re. Scott's claim!
> With all due respect it's like people act purposely obtuse just to
> argue.
>
> If you're a Usenet server (and most likely client) then it'll be
> somewhat symmetric.
>
> Depending on how many nodes you serve the bias could easily be towards
> upload bandwidth as msgs come in once (ideally) but you flood them to
> all the other servers you serve once per server, the entire traffic
> goes out multiple times, plus or minus various optimizations like
> "already have that msg" oh for the love of all that is good and holy
> do I have to type the entire NNTP protocol spec in here just to make
> sure there isn't some microscopic crack of light someone can use to
> misinterpret and/or pick nits about???
>
> What was the original question because I think this has degenerated
> into just argumentativeness, we're on the verge of spelling and
> grammar error flames.
>
> I don't know how anyone who claims to have run Usenet servers couldn't
> know all this, is it just trolling?
>
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In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
In practice, there is. .... Yogi Berra
