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Re: Large Ontario DC busted for hosting petabytes of child abuse

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Justin Wilson - MTIN)
Mon Mar 2 13:09:48 2015

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From: Justin Wilson - MTIN <lists@mtin.net>
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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2015 13:04:11 -0500
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Part of it depends on if the DC was doing managed services as well.  If =
they are just a space tenant then their exposure can be limited.  But if =
it was their servers that will be a little different.  Not saying it =
would make the difference, but opens another avenue to be argued.

To me it=E2=80=99s like going after the Landlord of a rental apartment =
if someone is busted for drugs.  How much can be proven that they knew? =
How much can they interfere with their business?

Justin


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> On Mar 2, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund@medline.com> =
wrote:
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> Don't know who this is but the legalities are pretty clear I think.  =
The DC is not required to know what data is stored but if the cops can =
prove that someone DID know what was stored, that person can be =
criminally charged.  IANAL but I have worked with LE on a similar case =
and that is how it was explained to us by the FBI.  It will be hard to =
prove anyone knew however since anyone that knew and did not report it =
committed a crime.  Charging the company will be a stretch unless they =
can prove that at least one corporate officer knew.  Otherwise the =
company will fire whichever employee knew and say "He should have told =
us".
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> This is all about who knew what and when.
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> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
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>> 18 million dollars revenue in three months so certainly pretty large =
sized.
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>> Any idea which DC this is?
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>> =
http://motherboard.vice.com/en_ca/read/police-could-charge-a-data-center-i=
n-the-largest-child-porn-bust-ever





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