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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Michael Thomas)
Mon Mar 2 12:33:05 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Mon, 02 Mar 2015 09:32:59 -0800
From: Michael Thomas <mike@mtcc.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
In-Reply-To: <9578293AE169674F9A048B2BC9A081B4015725FFBC@MUNPRDMBXA1.medline.com>
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On 03/02/2015 09:20 AM, Naslund, Steve wrote:
>> Average !=3D Peak.
>>
> What is peak?  There is a question for you. If we get all the way down =
to the fundamentals of any network, peak is always 100%.  There is either=
 a bit on the wire or not.  Your network is either 100% busy or 100% idle=
 at any instantaneous moment in time.  What matters is average transfer r=
ate to the user experience and even that varies a lot depending on the ap=
p in question and how that app tolerates things like jitter, loss, and la=
tency.  It is about whether data is being buffered waiting for a transmis=
sion window and is the buffer being cleared as fast as it is being filled=
=2E  A network is engineered to support some average levels because it wo=
uld be very cost ineffective to engineer a wide area network to support p=
eak transmission on all ports at all times.  All studies of network traff=
ic show that it is not necessary to build a network that way.  Our networ=
ks are statistical multiplexers in their design and have been all the way=
 back to the Bell System.  You do know that not everyone can make a phone=
 call at once, right (but who would you call if everyone was already off =
hook, get it?)?  In fact, it is such a difficult problem that it is very =
hard to support inside a single data center class Ethernet switch.  In th=
e wide area, it would be incredibly expensive to design an entirely non-b=
locking network at all traffic levels.  It could be built if you want to =
pay for it however.
>

::AWOOOOGAAAA:: Strawman Alert!

Nobody's talking about taking poor Erlang behind the barn and shooting hi=
m.

We're talking about being able to send upstream at a=20
reasonable/comparable rate as downstream.

Mike


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