[178523] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mark Tinka)
Sat Feb 28 01:24:04 2015
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
Date: Sat, 28 Feb 2015 08:23:54 +0200
From: Mark Tinka <mark.tinka@seacom.mu>
To: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <15477A98-E9AF-4AF9-AF27-6CFCD3A7F247@delong.com>
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
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On 28/Feb/15 07:48, Owen DeLong wrote:
> No, I=92m not assuming anything other than that you claimed the video c=
hat justified a need for symmetry when in reality, it does not.
>
> I=92m all for better upstream bandwidth to the home. I=92d love to have=
everyone have 1G/1G capability even if it=92s 100:1 oversubscribed on th=
e upstream.
>
> However, I=92d much rather have 384M/128M than 256M/256M to be honest.
>
> In general, I find my 30M/7M is not too terribly painful most of the ti=
me. Do I wish I had more upstream? Yes, but not as much as I wish I had m=
ore downstream. I think an ideal minimum that would probably be comfortab=
le most of the time today would be 100M/30M.
Limitations by technology are things we can't do anything about. ADSL,
GPON, e.t.c.
If one is taking Ethernet into the home, then a limitation on the uplink
is a function of a direct or implicit rate limit imposed by the
operator, and not by the hardware. In such cases, competition will
ensure a reasonable level playing field for the consumer. With
limitations in hardware, every operator has the same problem, so the
issue is a non-starter.
You're right, I do not necessarily need 1Gbps up, 1Gbps down. I just
need enough to get me by. GPON gives you (what one would say) reasonable
bandwidth upward, but then the uplink from the OLT to the BRAS becomes a
choke point because GPON is, well, asymmetric. So then, some would ask,
"What is the point of my 30Mbps up, 100Mbps down GPON?" YMM will really
V, of course.
Active-E is 1Gbps up, 1Gbps down. Uplink to the BRAS is 10Gbps/100Gbps
up, 10Gbps/100Gbps down. Any limitations in upward (or downward)
performance are not constructs of the hardware, but of how the network
operator runs it.
Mark.
