[178498] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: utility capacity, was Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Mel Beckman)
Fri Feb 27 18:59:38 2015
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From: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
To: John Levine <johnl@iecc.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 23:44:02 +0000
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John,
That's an excellent point. Consider Google fiber, for example. And customer=
could theoretically demand a gigabit of traffic. Even Google admits that t=
his doesn't scale and that they are highly oversubscribed.
-mel beckman
On Feb 27, 2015, at 3:05 PM, "John Levine" <johnl@iecc.com> wrote:
>> Water, gas, and to a great extent electrical systems do not work on
>> oversubscription, ie their aggregate capacity meets or exceeds the needs=
of
>> all their customers peak potential demand, at least from "normal" demand
>> standpoint.
>=20
> Hi, former municipal water and sewer commissioner here. We size the
> system to meet likely demand, but not peak demand. If it's a hot dry
> summer and everyone wants to water their lawn, or there's a big fire
> that's drawing a lot of water from hydrants, we can have capacity
> problems. We deal with it by interrupting service to a few large
> customers, a car wash and a golf course.
>=20
> But it's not really comparable to broadband service, because on the
> Internet, nearly every consumer end user device could easily saturate
> the entire network if it wanted to. It's like every house having a
> 100,000 gallon toilet. Better hope you don't have a lot of people
> flushing at once.
>=20
> R's,
> John
