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Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (James R Cutler)
Fri Feb 27 18:10:31 2015

X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: James R Cutler <james.cutler@consultant.com>
In-Reply-To: <9578293AE169674F9A048B2BC9A081B4015725E400@MUNPRDMBXA1.medline.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 18:01:32 -0500
To: "Naslund, Steve" <SNaslund@medline.com>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces+nanog.discuss=bloom-picayune.mit.edu@nanog.org


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> On Feb 27, 2015, at 5:52 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund@medline.com> =
wrote:
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> What is that statement based on?  I have not seen any outcry for more =
symmetric speeds.  Asymmetry in our networks causes a lot of engineering =
issues and if it were up to the carriers, we would much rather have more =
symmetric traffic patterns because it would make life easier for us.  =
Remember that most carrier backbones are built of symmetric circuits.  =
It would be nice but the users generally download more than they upload. =
 That is the fact.
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> Steven Naslund
> Chicago IL
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>> The demand may not be symmetrical, but where demand exists, it is =
often for symmetrical speeds.
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>> Side note:  Did I not read that asymmetric paths tend to exacerbate =
Buffer Bloat?
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>> James R. Cutler
>> James.cutler@consultant.com
>> PGP keys at http://pgp.mit.edu
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"the users generally download more than they upload.=E2=80=9D may well =
be true, but is refers to bytes moved, not bytes per second.

And, again, what about Buffer Bloat, especially due to considerably =
slower uplinks?


James R. Cutler
James.cutler@consultant.com
PGP keys at http://pgp.mit.edu




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