[178471] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Fri Feb 27 17:40:18 2015
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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
In-Reply-To: <CAORNjyoEZCTtYZbkJF0CQDGGLND=TNJ_=-a=t8niAUg4PLKEbA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 14:19:51 -0800
To: Jim Richardson <weaselkeeper@gmail.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Any website which does not violate the law.
In other words, if a lawful takedown order has been applied to a =
website, this code can=E2=80=99t be used to force an ISP to provide =
illegal access to said site.
Owen
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 11:14 , Jim Richardson <weaselkeeper@gmail.com> =
wrote:
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>> =46rom 47CFR=C2=A78.5b
> (b) A person engaged in the provision of mobile broadband Internet
> access service, insofar as such person is so engaged, shall not block
> consumers from accessing lawful Web sites, subject to reasonable
> network management; nor shall such person block applications that
> compete with the provider's voice or video telephony services, subject
> to reasonable network management.
>=20
> What's a "lawful" web site?
>=20
>=20
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 10:28 AM, Lamar Owen <lowen@pari.edu> wrote:
>> On 02/27/2015 01:19 PM, Rob McEwen wrote:
>>>=20
>>> We're solving an almost non-existing problem.. by over-empowering an
>>> already out of control US government, with powers that we can't even =
begin
>>> to understand the extend of how they could be abused... to "fix" an =
industry
>>> that has done amazingly good things for consumers in recent years.
>>>=20
>> You really should read 47CFR=C2=A78. It won't take you more than an =
hour or so,
>> as it's only about 8 pages.
>>=20
>> The procedure for filing a complaint is pretty interesting, and =
requires the
>> complainant to do some pretty involved things. (47CFR=C2=A78.14 for =
the complaint
>> procedure, 47CFR=C2=A78.13 for the requirements for the pleading, =
etc). Note
>> that the definitions found in 47CFR=C2=A78.11(a) and (b) are pretty =
specific in
>> who is actually covered by 'net neutrality.'
>>=20
