[178407] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Daniel Taylor)
Fri Feb 27 14:21:18 2015
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Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:21:14 -0600
From: Daniel Taylor <dtaylor@vocalabs.com>
To: nanog@nanog.org
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But by this you are buying into the myth of the mean.
It isn't that most, or even many, people would take advantage of equal
upstream bandwidth, but that the few who would need to take extra
measures unrelated to the generation of that content to be able to do so.
Given symmetrical provisioning, no extra measures need to be taken when
that 10 year old down the street turns out to be a master musician.
On 02/27/2015 11:59 AM, Scott Helms wrote:
> This is true in our measurements today, even when subscribers are given
> symmetrical connections. It might change at some point in the future,
> especially when widespread IPv6 lets us get rid of NAT as a de facto
> deployment reality.
>
>
> Scott Helms
> Vice President of Technology
> ZCorum
> (678) 507-5000
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> http://twitter.com/kscotthelms
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> On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 12:48 PM, Naslund, Steve <SNaslund@medline.com>
> wrote:
>
>> How about this? Show me 10 users in the average neighborhood creating
>> content at 5 mbps....Period. Only realistic app I see is home surveillance
>> but I don't think you want everyone accessing that anyway. The truth is
>> that the average user does not create content that anyone needs to see.
>> This has not changed throughout the ages, the ratio of authors to readers,
>> artists to art lovers, musicians to music lovers, YouTube cat video creator
>> to cat video lovers, has never been a many to many relationship.
>>
>> On 2015-02-27 12:13, Valdis.Kletnieks@vt.edu wrote:
>>> Consider a group of 10 users, who all create new content. If each one
>>> creates at a constant rate of 5 mbits, they need 5 up. But to
>>> download all the new content from the other 9, they need close to 50
>> down.
>>> And when you expand to several billion people creating new content,
>>> you need a *huge* pipe down.
>> Steven Naslund
>> Chicago IL
>>
>>
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