[178405] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Verizon Policy Statement on Net Neutrality
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (William Herrin)
Fri Feb 27 14:08:22 2015
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From: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2015 13:54:47 -0500
To: Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org>
Cc: NANOG <nanog@nanog.org>
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On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 1:34 PM, Mel Beckman <mel@beckman.org> wrote:
> On Feb 27, 2015, at 9:56 AM, William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
> wrote:
>> Deceit is Bad Behavior. If you sell me an X megabit per second
>> Internet access service, you should do everything reasonably within
>> your power to make sure I can access the Internet sites of my choice
>> at X megabits per second.
> This is not feasible. ISPs work by oversubscription, so it's never possible
> for all (or even 10% of all) customers to simultaneously demand their full
> bandwidth. If ISPs had to reserve the full bandwidth sold to each customer
Hi Mel,
Respectfully, that's a straw man argument. You alter the parameters of
my criticism then proceed to show how the altered argument is
unreasonable.
All utilities work by oversubscription: electric, natural gas, water
and sewer. When the sewer authority fouls up their oversubscription
model and your pee ends up in my basement, guess who pays for the
cleanup? They do.
I have some unfortunate first-hand experience with this.
> Anyone who doesn't understand [oversubscription]
> will be unable to engage in reasonable discussion about ISP practices.
You said it, not me.
Regards,
Bill Herrin
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