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Re: Dynamic routing on firewalls.

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Owen DeLong)
Thu Feb 5 14:21:39 2015

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From: Owen DeLong <owen@delong.com>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 15:15:23 -0400
To: "Ralph J.Mayer" <rmayer@nerd-residenz.de>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
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Some Juniper models actually do a very good job of being both.

In reality, a Firewall _IS_ a router, even if it's a bad one. Anything that m=
oves packets from one interface to another is a router. Of course, the suppo=
rt for routing protocols is a useful feature in a router and one of the area=
s where firewalls often fall short.

Where you want to put things (in front, behind, etc.) really depends on your=
 topology and the problem you are trying to solve.

Personally, I like to keep the firewalls as close to the end hosts as possib=
le. This tends to greatly simplify security policies and make them MUCH easi=
er (and more reliable) to audit.

Owen




> On Feb 5, 2015, at 2:49 PM, Ralph J.Mayer <rmayer@nerd-residenz.de> wrote:=

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> Hi David,
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> a router is a router and a firewall is a firewall.
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> Especially a Cisco ASA is no router, period.
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> A router in front of the firewall is my choice, it also keeps broadcasts f=
rom the firewall + can do uRPF.
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> rm

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