[177791] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Patrick W. Gilmore)
Thu Feb 5 13:54:59 2015
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From: "Patrick W. Gilmore" <patrick@ianai.net>
In-Reply-To: <18569385.12790.1423160951030.JavaMail.mhammett@ThunderFuck>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 12:54:43 -0600
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
By that logic, and giving you the benefit of the doubt that you follow your o=
wn advice, you have 15-20 upstreams?
I've never tried that on a standard network with BGP as the only tool. See a=
ny interesting operational stuff with that many upstreams?
Also, while many people knock Cogent, I would submit that many people have b=
ad first-hand experiences with Cogent (including me).
Every network has its bad days. Even the best companies screw customers from=
time-to-time. But the preponderance of evidence is a useful guidepost. Coge=
nt is large, but does not have even half the customers NTT has. Do "lots of p=
eople knock NTT"? Given NTT's much larger number of customers, shouldn't tha=
t mean they have more knocks?
If not, I submit the disparity is a useful datapoint when choosing a provid=
er.
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TTFN,
patrick
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos.=20
> On Feb 5, 2015, at 12:29, Mike Hammett <nanog@ics-il.net> wrote:
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> A lot of people knock Cogent, but the best way to get to Cogent's customer=
's is probably through Cogent. Given that they do have a very large network,=
they're worth picking up even if you only use them for customer routes.=20
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> ----- Original Message -----
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> From: "Jack Stonebraker" <Jack.Stonebraker@mygrande.com>=20
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> Sent: Thursday, February 5, 2015 11:24:59 AM=20
> Subject: Input Regarding Cogent and NTT=20
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> My organization is currently shopping for some additional Transit Capacity=
to augment our existing interconnects. We've got around 8 distinct AS's tha=
t we're receiving transit routes from, followed by a handful of Public IX's a=
nd Private PNI's to AS's that warrant them. That said, the networks that are=
on our radar are Cogent and NTT. I've done some due diligence poking around=
on their Looking Glass, but I'd love to hear any user experiences from the c=
ommunity, both from a Layer 3 Perspective, as well as an Operational Perspec=
tive (Working with the businesses themselves). Feel free to contact me off-l=
ist and thanks in advance for your time.=20
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> Jack Stonebraker | Sr. IP Network Engineer=20
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