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RE: Checkpoint IPS

daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Darden, Patrick)
Thu Feb 5 08:28:04 2015

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From: "Darden, Patrick" <Patrick.Darden@p66.com>
To: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2015 13:25:59 +0000
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Like most tools, IPSes are only as good as the people using them.

+10  "you can't just plug the "magic box" inline and expect to relax"

IPSes can't replace a well administered modern firewall, with default deny,=
 well defined protocols with sanity checking, etc.  But imho they can help-=
-e.g. with an internal well-protected network that shouldn't even be able t=
o be attacked, but some dude picked up a usb key in the parking lot and plu=
gged it into his PC to see what was on it.  No firewall will help with this=
--but an IDS/IPS will.

And no box is magic (another +10), despite the marketing droids' nebulous t=
alk of clouds and AI and harnessing the power of the nuclear-nano-crowd-sou=
rce.  They all need active attention by knowledgeable and intelligent peopl=
e.

--p

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From: NANOG [mailto:nanog-bounces@nanog.org] On Behalf Of Michael O Holstei=
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Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2015 7:13 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL]Re: Checkpoint IPS
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Personally I'm of the belief that *all* IPS systems are equally worthless, =
unless the goal is to just check a box on a form. Sure they will give you p=
retty graphs of script-kiddie attempts but that's just the noise in which t=
he skilled attack will get lost. You have to do everything else right, you =
can't just plug the "magic box" inline and expect to relax.
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Michael Holstein
Cleveland State University
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