[177068] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: AS6713 (aka IAM / MOROCCO TELECOMS) peering contact
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Clayton Zekelman)
Sat Dec 27 16:42:31 2014
X-Original-To: nanog@nanog.org
From: Clayton Zekelman <clayton@mnsi.net>
Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2014 16:41:34 -0500
In-Reply-To: <21663.8873.620908.943963@world.std.com>
To: Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com>
Cc: "nanog@nanog.org" <nanog@nanog.org>
Errors-To: nanog-bounces@nanog.org
Can I share a clue with you? This is a North American English language list=
.
Threatening to show up at someone's door is a pretty douchebag way to make a=
point. What next? A rumble in the school parking lot at 3:45? =20
The person who taught me about BGP in 1995 worked for a large international c=
arrier at the time, and told me the story of how network technicians in the M=
iddle East would refuse to talk to HER because she couldn't possibly know wh=
at SHE was talking about. That story of sexism has stuck with me since then=
.
If it was a language mistake, then I educated the OP on the reason to use th=
e right pronoun. If it was sexism, then I called him out on his bullshit.
Either way Barry, if you want to come to my door, be my guest, but it will b=
e at that moment you realize what a huge mistake you made. =20
Sent from my iPhone
> On Dec 27, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Barry Shein <bzs@world.std.com> wrote:
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> May I share some clue?
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> The OP is probably not a native speaker of English.
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> You don't play PC language games with people who you aren't *certain*
> are native speakers of English.
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> Why? Because if you do I will show up at your door!
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> I dunno, just don't do it, it's rude and stupid, imagine if you were
> trying to post in your college Arabic or French or whatever and got
> hit with subtleties like this instead of a simple answer.
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> -b
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>> On December 27, 2014 at 14:35 clayton@mnsi.net (Clayton Zekelman) wrote:
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>> That is why the better pronoun choice would have been 'you', not 'he' or '=
she'.=20
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>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Dec 27, 2014, at 1:47 PM, Javier J <javier@advancedmachines.us> wrote=
:
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>>> What if they don't identify as a he or a she?
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>>>> On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 6:46 PM, Clayton Zekelman <clayton@mnsi.net> wr=
ote:
>>>> What if the peering team member is a she? Should she not contact you i=
f so?
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>>>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>>>> On Dec 26, 2014, at 5:48 PM, Youssef Bengelloun-Zahr <youssef@720.fr> w=
rote:
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>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>=20
>>>>> If someone from IAM peering team is watching, could he please get in t=
ouch
>>>>> OFF-list please ?
>>>>>=20
>>>>> Best regards.
>>>>>=20
>>>>> --
>>>>> Youssef BENGELLOUN-ZAHR
>>>=20
