[177048] in North American Network Operators' Group
Re: How our young colleagues are being educated....
daemon@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (=?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson)
Fri Dec 26 04:36:03 2014
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From: =?utf-8?B?TcOlbnM=?= Nilsson <mansaxel@besserwisser.org>
To: William Herrin <bill@herrin.us>
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Subject: Re: How our young colleagues are being educated.... Date: Fri, Dec=
26, 2014 at 02:56:40AM -0500 Quoting William Herrin (bill@herrin.us):
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> In the real world you often assign a /32 to a loopback address on each
> router and make all of the serial interfaces borrow that address (ip
> unnumbered in Cisco parlance) which wastes no addresses.
Why would you want to waste 79228162514264337593543950336 addresses on a lo=
opback?=20
More seriously, why does this discussion only briefly mention IPv6? Every
client comes with it (aggressvely) enabled -- it is there despite the
fat / happy parts of the networking community sitting on their legacy
space and laughing at Asia.
I've had, as mentioned earlier, a "cisco graduate" as intern and then
colleague for a year now. He's a fast learner, and that was needed. No
v6. Not much MPLS. No ISIS. Barely eBGP. No iBGP, especially not in
conjunction with a link-state IGP. Lots of RIP, Flame Delay and EIGRP.=20
There are two problems;=20
* The academic community is either outdated or married to a
vendor-specific course -- and that marriage is not very=20
academic, IMNSHO. Academia must be vendor agnostic.
* The vendor courses are too enterprisey, and an outdated=20
enterprise at that. There is no course in "running a=20
sensible chunk of the Internet".=20
And this in a world where the largest innovation the last 5 years is
abstraction (as in virtualisation and to some extent SDN). Not in=20
protocols. Should be reasonably easy to keep up.
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M=C3=A5ns Nilsson primary/secondary/besserwisser/machina
MN-1334-RIPE +46 705 989668
So this is what it feels like to be potato salad
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